Removal of DPF filter?

[PoTreeBoy]

Thats an interesting question and I am not a lawyer.

The law prohibits maufacturing or knowingly tampering with emissions devices, or falsely certifying their operation.

So in my lay opinion something like changing a tire on a machine with a modded emission system would not be a violation. But anything that involves hooking up a diagnostic scanner or working on the engine puts you in a precarious position. At that point you are knowingly working on a modified emissions system.

Dont take that to the bank.

Dan

That's the direct law. Then there's, I suspect, a contractual agreement between Kubota and each dealer that restricts them. The penalty 'under penalty of law', is, I suspect, limited to loosing their relationship with Kubota, unless damages to Kubota could be shown. But, TTL, I'm not a lawyer.

 

[ruger1980]

Working for an OEM I can tell you after meetings with our attorneys and director of compliance that yes it is not legal to modify or remove any emissions device on an emissions equipped engine. There are no federal or as far as I know state laws that prohibits one from working on a deleted vehicle if that does not involve modifying or removing those emissions devices. We have had several dealers bring a deleted machine back into compliance after being deleted so it would have to be legal to perform that process.

The decision to work on a deleted vehicle is the sole discretion the dealer and we do not prohibit and I am certain we cannot stop them from doing so. We do recommend not working on deleted machines. As far as warranty that is a slippery slope. Yes a claim can be denied when submitted on a deleted machine but for a failure that is not emissions or engine related it can be a grey area.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Working for an OEM I can tell you after meetings with our attorneys and director of compliance that yes it is not legal to modify or remove any emissions device on an emissions equipped engine. There are no federal or as far as I know state laws that prohibits one from working on a deleted vehicle if that does not involve modifying or removing those emissions devices. We have had several dealers bring a deleted machine back into compliance after being deleted so it would have to be legal to perform that process.

The decision to work on a deleted vehicle is the sole discretion the dealer and we do not prohibit and I am certain we cannot stop them from doing so. We do recommend not working on deleted machines. As far as warranty that is a slippery slope. Yes a claim can be denied when submitted on a deleted machine but for a failure that is not emissions or engine related it can be a grey area.

I brought this up with my local repair shop a while back. They are also a state licensed inspection station and certifying emissions equipment is part of that process. The service manager was quite clear. Having a tampered vehicle in his shop put him in a compromising position both legally and ethically. He was risking his and the shop's license - no thank you.

EDIT - up until a month ago there was a smaller facility just down the road.. They were not a licensed inspection station and I know for a fact they had no qualms about falsifying emissions certifications

Dan