Purchased a new 30 gallon transfer tank with a hand rotary pump for fuel for my BX1850 and B2650. Before I fill it with fuel should I do anything to clean or prep the inside of the tank. Also there is a ground wire attached to the pump. Should I use this to ground to the frame of my tractors? Is the ground necessary with diesel?
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What color is it? It should be bright yellow, if not give it a shot of good paint.
Get some "Diesel Only" Stickers
No ground needed for diesel.
It should already be clean inside, but you could put a little diesel in it and then pour it out and check it.
Get some "Diesel Only" Stickers
No ground needed for diesel.
It should already be clean inside, but you could put a little diesel in it and then pour it out and check it.
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does it have any filters coming off the discharge side? SO whatever you pump up should run through a filter or two BEFORE hitting the tractor tank.
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The ground wire is recommended and often used when refueling from bulk containers of diesel fuel. If the engine is left running during refueling operations static electricity can be present and ignite the diesel fuel. This is especially true where ever a fan such as a cooling fan or helicopter rotors are moving air. A static electric discharge can and will ignite diesel fuel. This has happened several times at helicopter refueling points as well as at truck stops. Also, a cell phone has been known to ignite diesel fuel as well. I suggest using the ground strap when refueling from a bulk container. Place the ground strap on your tractor, not on the fuel container or a ground rod.
My aux fuel tank is bolted to the bed of my truck. When they refuel the choppers flying offshore they do use ground straps. And auxiliary fuel filtration ( for me) is a must when refueling from the extra tank. Ed B
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There has never been ONE instance of gasoline igniting at a fuel pump with a cell phone, and as for diesel, to make it burn you have to get the surface temperature really damn hot......125+ F
Try to take a simple match and light diesel - I am sure that everyone knows, neither of the liquids will ever burn.......the vapor/fumes
first column - flash point ...............second column autoignite
Ethanol (70%) 16.6 °C (61.9 °F)[2] 363 °C (685 °F)[2]
Gasoline (petrol) *;43 °C 280 °C (536 °F)[4]
Diesel (2-D) >52 °C (126 °F)[3] 256 °C (493 °F)[4]
Jet fuel (A/A-1) >38 °C (100 °F) 210 °C (410 °F)
Kerosene >38***8211;72 °C (100***8211;162 °F) 220 °C (428 °F)
Vegetable oil (canola) 327 °C (621 °F) 424 °C (795 °F)[5]
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Cell phones don't cause the fires, true, but dumb asses who use them certainly cause enough of them, by multi-tasking...(doing more than 1 thing at a time, poorly...)
Take your time, dissipate static, do one thing at a time, and you'll be safe.
Put the phone down, its a car, not a frickin phone booth...
https://youtu.be/uw6-PhvcS3M
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I'm thinking static electricity in this case. Saw the video on the national news last week.
Noticed on your table that it was missing the flash point in farienheit for gasoline. Just for the record it -45F
http://wfla.com/2016/06/16/watch-terrifying-explosion-caught-on-camera-at-gas-station/
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now how in the hell did wiki miss that ???
or did I NOT highlight enough stuff when coping and pasting!
or did I NOT highlight enough stuff when coping and pasting!
Sir, on tractors you are right, on what causes fuel explosions, not so much. The issue with liquid fuels/solvents isn't so much that the liquid form will catch fire, it's possible, but you really have to get lucky. The problem is with the fumes produced by the liquid. In order to burn you need 3 things, fuel, air and ignition. If the air is absent from the mix, the fuel is too rich, and you are right the fuel will not ignite. If you are a "bizillion" miles away from the fuel, the fuel is too thin, the fuel will not ignite. The problem is somewhere between those points where the mix is just right. The characteristics of fuels are all different, but anywhere between the upper and lower explosive limits it most certainly will ignite.