Hi, When key is turned to start position, the starter clicks loudly and rapidly with no engagement. This seems to drain the almost new battery down alot. About 10 secs after turning key to off position, I get a single small click on the right side of the engine. So far I have tried a different starter, checked that the slow blow 40 fuse is ok, ground cable is ok, checked the starter relay which is ok, and bypassed the PTO limit switch. What am I missing? Thanks in advance, Ed.
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johnjk
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When you pulled the starter did you get a look at the flywheel to see that you don’t have teeth broken off? Did you also bench test the starter to see that the gear is extending to engage the flywheel?
Jumping the starter will tell you a lot but you need to realize this comes with risks.
All safety features are bypassed and it is very easy to get run over or end up with a runaway tractor.
Having someone knowledgeable in the seat with the brakes applied is best.
Expect a small harmless spark when the jump is done.
The engine should crank immediately. If it does then your problem is in the safety circuits controlling the starter operation.
Dave
All safety features are bypassed and it is very easy to get run over or end up with a runaway tractor.
Having someone knowledgeable in the seat with the brakes applied is best.
Expect a small harmless spark when the jump is done.
The engine should crank immediately. If it does then your problem is in the safety circuits controlling the starter operation.
Dave
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If you are hearing a rapid clicking, your tractor probably has a Hydrostat transmission and the Hydro Safety switch is out of adjustment.
Do you have a voltmeter? This will tell you if you have sufficient voltage available. It sounds like a problem with voltage drop or insufficient voltage.
Test at the battery, battery terminal, and solenoid terminal when activating the starter. Then test for voltage drop by connecting the leads to the battery positive terminal and the battery terminal at the starter. then from the starter case to the negative terminal while cranking.
Test at the battery, battery terminal, and solenoid terminal when activating the starter. Then test for voltage drop by connecting the leads to the battery positive terminal and the battery terminal at the starter. then from the starter case to the negative terminal while cranking.
I would follow the advice already given, but must tell you this brought back memories from 50 plus years ago, when that same symptom used to appear when a battery was going bad in cars at that time...Might be a memory from sixty years ago actually...
Batteries do fail prematurely these days, maybe more than they used to... Just an impression though, with nothing to back it up...
That small “click” you hear about 10 secs after turning the key to “off” .... is likely the fuel-stop-solenoid. When you turn the key ”off”...the solenoid shuts off the fuel. About 10 secs later it relaxes with a “click” and opens the fuel supply up again to enable another start.
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I have never had a GST exhibit that symptom, but it is a quite common symptom on an HST due to the switch design.
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I have tested the voltage at the new battery and it is 14 v. Going to tomorrow replace the PTO safety switch which does not test always correctly, and also replace because it's a ways to the Kubota dealer, the shuttle safety switch.
How did you test the battery voltage? You need to watch the meter at the time you try to start the tractor, to be sure it does not drop due to issues with the battery when it is asked to supply load current.
Maybe you did this, do not know. But just measuring the battery voltage when unloaded is not good enough...
Thanks to all, it was a new in March defective battery. Tested 14v but as soon as a load was put on it, it was dead. Put in an old battery and started right up. Two afternoons I will never get back. Thank you.
I have similar symptoms & thought that with a failing battery a jump would compensate, but had the same symptom: good volts prior to cranking but drawing down immediately- was that the same symptom? Even with a dead battery I could jump before, but not with this.
Update: put in a new battery, fixed the problem.
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