Is it true all Americans want higher gas prices?

boakley

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I am confused... I read gas/diesel prices are to high but yet the leaders want to choke off imports from the largest supplier.

56% of all oil imported into the US comes from Canada.

Yet Fed's and states like Michigan don't want these supplies.
First day in office Biden cancels permits for TC Energies Line 5
(https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...t-and-nature-141eabd7cca6449dfbd2dab8165812f2

Michigan wants to close down Line 3 from Canada.

Do all Americans want no imported oil from Canada so gas prices go up or are supplies from friends in Russian and Arab countries more wanted?
 
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Most oil and gas in the US comes from Texas and New Mexico. Most of the Canadian oil was going to refineries on the gulf coast to be refined and exported.
 
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Only the dumb ones don’t want oil from Canada. That’s still a lot of people, but don’t blame the dead people, fake people, noncitizens, and people who voted multiple times in the last election.
 
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To answer the OP's question in the subject line, I know people personally that think gas/fuel prices need to go up more so the 'new energy technology" will then be implemented and we will finally achieve paradise.

Most people truly have no idea how much oil is used for other things and think it is only used to make cars go.
 
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Just wait a couple of months when people in NY and NJ realize that the cost of natural gas for heating just doubled because of cancelled pipelines. We seem to be in such a rush to switch from fossil fuels to the use of electricity for all of our energy needs that we are not paying attention to the short term consequences.
 
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To answer the OP's question in the subject line, I know people personally that think gas/fuel prices need to go up more so the 'new energy technology" will then be implemented and we will finally achieve paradise.

Most people truly have no idea how much oil is used for other things and think it is only used to make cars go.
I think that way too. Here in Canada our government recently added a tax of almost 10% to gas to discourage people from using it / conserve / switch / etc...

depending exactly where in Canada you are... about 44% of the pump price is now taxes. Paid with money we make that already has federal, provincial and other taxes taken off. :(
 

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To answer the OP's question in the subject line, I know people personally that think gas/fuel prices need to go up more so the 'new energy technology" will then be implemented and we will finally achieve paradise.

Most people truly have no idea how much oil is used for other things and think it is only used to make cars go.
Wait til they start wondering how they gonna charge all their electric cars during the blackouts. Or when they can’t afford to get them fixed or can’t get parts for them. And then they aren’t worth anything when you need a new one.

And forget about extended warranties, I’ve seen numerous times where the car may need a battery or transmission (generator) and the part alone is more then the car worth. They just send you a check for the value of the car.
 
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Reminds me of an old bumper sticker I saw from the UMWA,,, Ban coal mining let the bastards freeze in the dark. Coal may no longer be King, but it seems things come to a real stand still when its not being used
 

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exactly right.

It is a manufactured "shortage".

I told everyone this stuff would happen, however some chose not to listen.

Ignorance=when you don't know.
Stupid=when you know and do it anyway.

There are a lot of stupid people.

Many don't quite grasp the idea that our leaders have the power, and often do, indirectly cause product/service disruptions. Ask yourself why. Since our leaders have green in mind (and I don't agree with it), they manufacture a shortage in supply, demand remaining high, resulting in more green energy usage; e.g., electric cars, etc.

Indirectly meaning they don't want you and I to know about it. They ain't dumb enough call up Iran and say "hey don't send us 2 boats full of oil". Rather they'll do things diplomatically. Lets make a law that says "we're gonna mandate that gas vehicles are going to die"--and include in that set of laws that the importation and sale of the fuel they use will be reduced, and taxed heavily. Just an example of course. They're smart. I'll give them that.

Most never give thought to it, but think on this. If it weren't for dumb mandates, laws, we'd have $0.50/gal fuel, cars would not cost $80,000, you get the idea (hopefully). Anytime the government gets involved into our daily lives, they somehow manage to screw something up. And this is exactly one of the things that I told people would happen; again many chose not to listen. They knew it in the back of their minds and chose to do it anyway, which makes them stupid. If you take offense to this, good-the seed has been planted. Now use your noggin the next time you choose to vote.
 
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I am wondering what will happen when I need to charge my electric vehicle on a long road trip and someone is already plugged in to the charger. Waiting in line for gasoline is a few minutes per customer, waiting in line for a half hour or longer charge per customer is going to be very interesting.,
 
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I am confused... I read gas/diesel prices are to high but yet the leaders want to choke off imports from the largest supplier.

56% of all oil imported into the US comes from Canada.

Yet Fed's and states like Michigan don't want these supplies.
First day in office Biden cancels permits for TC Energies Line 5
(https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...t-and-nature-141eabd7cca6449dfbd2dab8165812f2

Michigan wants to close down Line 3 from Canada.

Do all Americans want no imported oil from Canada so gas prices go up or are supplies from friends in Russian and Arab countries more wanted?
Perhaps you are confused boakley or perhaps you are selectively stating facts out of context . . .

From the same source you cited


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQS)
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How much petroleum does the United States import and export?

In 2020, the United States imported about 7.86 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from about 80 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids, refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels (including ethanol and biodiesel). Crude oil imports of about 5.88 MMb/d accounted for about 75% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports in 2020, and non-crude oil petroleum accounted for about 25% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports.
In 2020, the United States exported about 8.50 MMb/d of petroleum to about 174 countries and 4 U.S. territories. Crude oil exports of about 3.21 MMb/d accounted for 38% of total U.S. gross petroleum exports in 2020. The resulting total net petroleum imports (imports minus exports) were about -0.63 MMb/d in 2020, which means that the United States was a net petroleum exporter of 0.63 MMb/d in 2020.
The top five source countries of U.S. gross petroleum imports in 2020 were Canada, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Colombia.


As far as Michigan's attempt to shut down that pipeline it has to do with the danger of the line failing.
"Whitmer’s government believes the 68-year-old Line 5, which runs from Superior, Wisc., to Sarnia, Ont., via Michigan, poses an unacceptable risk of a “catastrophic” oil spill threatening the entire Great Lakes ecosystem."

So the bottom line, we are a net exporter of oil and that oil line you fear monger about is a known unacceptable risk for failing.

Perhaps some Americans are tired of 1/2 truths and quotes out of context.
 
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Yep..they do…

we here in this crap hole state voted to increase the tax on gas…again. They say they will use the old tax for roads…nope…then they ask for MORE money and these clowns vote for it. The roads are worse than ever, they ban gas cars and small equipment, there is not enough water or power….and the new gas tax is getting spent on schooling, college and health care for illegal immigrants.

yep…they voted for it it so it must be what they want OP.
 
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Maybe if the new pipe lines weren't blocked we wouldn't be forced to use 70 year old pipe lines. It's like they want the oil pipe line to fail.
 

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The thing is the oil company wanted to replace the line into the UP as I understand, and she said no and shut it down,, true or not it sounds a little fishy to me
 

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Yep..they do…

we here in this crap hole state voted to increase the tax on gas…again. They say they will use the old tax for roads…nope…then they ask for MORE money and these clowns vote for it. The roads are worse than ever, they ban gas cars and small equipment, there is not enough water or power….and the new gas tax is getting spent on schooling, college and health care for illegal immigrants.

yep…they voted for it it so it must be what they want OP.
You get what you vote for, and you get it good and hard.
 

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You get what you vote for, and you get it good and hard.
After reading this thread, all I can think to say is:

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Going through town today, I noticed we have broken the $3.00/gallon barrier. Several gas stations here now have $3.09/gallon for regular unleaded.
 

jyoutz

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Just wait a couple of months when people in NY and NJ realize that the cost of natural gas for heating just doubled because of cancelled pipelines. We seem to be in such a rush to switch from fossil fuels to the use of electricity for all of our energy needs that we are not paying attention to the short term consequences.
The cancellation of a Canadian pipeline is not driving gas price increases. I live in New Mexico, the second highest producer of oil and NG. We have pipelines all over the state coming directly from the oil/gas fields and abundant NG. Our prices are increasing also this year. This is a worldwide market situation.