Early BX2200 with LA211 FEL - loader hoses messed up

Dusty Dan

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My BX2200 is one of the first ones made and the loader controls come off with the loader. With the loader off one is supposed to connect the power beyond port to the pump port as shown in the image. Is there a problem with moving the tractor without making this connection? Can one mow with it?


BX2200 loader hoses.png



BX2200 loader hoses.png
 

shelkol

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Yes, do not run without that connection. If you do the hydraulics circuit will not be complete and will be blocked.
 

Dusty Dan

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That is what I figured but was hoping that it was not so. Thanks
 

Dustyx2

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Why wouldn't you? It's just one quick coupling to hook up and you need to cap the other too. Takes 30 seconds to do it.

Guess I should read a little closer. "Hoses messed up"
 
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Dusty Dan

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Happens to me too. The tractor has maybe 1700 or so hours on it. Started to change the quick connects and finished 2 of the 3 pair. The last pair is so tight I can't get them to come off. So I can't operate the tractor w/o the loader until I get that sorted.

This is motivation to have another go at it. The loader cylinders have leaked down since I got the tractor at 1000 hours. Now they are leaking fluid and the price of UDT2 has me motivated to fix them.

Thanks for replying just the same Dustyx2!

EDIT: The right answer it to replace the hose along with the quick connect that will not come off.
 

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Dan - - - when you shut the tractor down, rotate the joystick around in all directions to relieve pressure on all the hydraulic circuits. It helps connection/disconnection.
 
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DustyRusty

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Those early Pioneer couplings are nothing but problematic on the early BX model tractors. They either stick, or the come apart when you least expect it, and the hydraulics stop working. I would get rid of all of them and use the flat faced couplings. Amazon sells a set of 1/4" male and female for $40 for the pair. They work well, and they even have a locking ring that you index with a tiny tab to release them. No more having a coupling brush up against a bush and popping apart. They are made by Summit Hydraulics.
 

Dusty Dan

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Those early Pioneer couplings are nothing but problematic on the early BX model tractors. They either stick, or the come apart when you least expect it, and the hydraulics stop working. I would get rid of all of them and use the flat faced couplings. Amazon sells a set of 1/4" male and female for $40 for the pair. They work well, and they even have a locking ring that you index with a tiny tab to release them. No more having a coupling brush up against a bush and popping apart. They are made by Summit Hydraulics.
Agree regarding the original coupling.
I ordered and returned the Summit flat couplers after a mechanic friend said he had them and they were not worth the additional cost. Don't recall his reasons. I replaced them with a less expensive summit coupler.

1/4" NPT ISO 7241-B Quick Disconnect Hydraulic Coupling/Coupler Set w/Dust Caps
Brand: Summit Hydraulics

I have been using 2 of the 3 sets without problems for 2 years. At least for now I will stick with them. The needed hose(s) will be spendy enough.

Thanks
 

shelkol

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I modified my loader so the valve always stays on the tractor even if I remove the loader. So the couplers have not been moved in almost 20 years
 
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Dusty Dan

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I modified my loader so the valve always stays on the tractor even if I remove the loader. So the couplers have not been moved in almost 20 years
I have been thinking about that since I got the tractor. Could you be kind enough to provide a picture ?

Thanks either way
 

shelkol

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I have been thinking about that since I got the tractor. Could you be kind enough to provide a picture ?

Thanks either way
Pictures at: https://shelkol.com/MyProjects/TractorPictures/index.html but they don't show it well. I actually built a cab and permanently mounted them on the cab. Then I purchased another left side upright ( the one without the valve mount ) and replaced the right side upright. If you want better pics let me know
 

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Im pretty sure if you dont hook up to the power beyond the tractor will not move!
 

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I want add a 4 way spool valve once I remove my loader set up so I can operate a snow plow. The spool valve I have has the PB port. Does anyone know which port gets connected to which of the tractor hoses. My thoughts are Pump port (B) goes to the P port on the valve, The tank port (C) gets connected to the T port on the valve and the Power beyond port (A) gets connected to the PB port of the valve. Please correct me if I am wrong as I love my tractor and don't want to damage her in any way.
 

Dustyx2

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When I use the snowblower on my BX22 I would take the loader off, and then take the post with the valve on it off of the loader and remount it to the tractor. There are quick connects between the valve and the loader. I then hook my snowblower lift cylinder and chute rotate to the valve.
 

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Boo 72

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When I use the snowblower on my BX22 I would take the loader off, and then take the post with the valve on it off of the loader and remount it to the tractor. There are quick connects between the valve and the loader. I then hook my snowblower lift cylinder and chute rotate to the valve.
That is how mine is set up too, but feeding the control unit through the cab is a pain. I take the cab off for the summer. So, I am thinking of having a spool valve that stays in the cab.