wrong wheel spacers maybe? or can I change out bolts?

BXHoosier · May 10, 2020

PNWBXer said:
Two questions.....could you torque it to 96lb with that SP socket without breaking it?

And secondly I'd like to compare the diameter of the holes....mine are:

2.4 cm (24mm) or 31/32nds of a inch.

And I just noticed that you have 5 bolts to hold the spacer on. Did it come like that stock when you bought your tractor or did you have to remove the 2 studs (like I have on my BX2380) and replace them with bolts?

I had no problem torquing the bolts without damaging the socket. Let me measure my socket to see what diameter it is. I also have a set of thin wall Harbor Freight lug nut sockets which may be what I actually used.

I assume it came from the factory with 5 bolts and no studs. It was used when I bought it.

thebicman · May 10, 2020

My post was directed at the original poster. So you have two options. Find a socket that will fit or return the spacers for another brand.

PNWBXer · May 10, 2020

thebicman said:
My post was directed at the original poster. So you have two options. Find a socket that will fit or return the spacers for another brand.

Maybe....unless I can buy 3 more studs, red lock tight, and smaller head lug nuts right? As long as they all match in thread and can be torqued right? I saw GP outdoors on YouTube take off and reinstall studs for his spacers. Obviously a different tractor and spacer/kit but the work is the same.

PNWBXer · May 12, 2020

BXHoosier said:
I had no problem torquing the bolts without damaging the socket. Let me measure my socket to see what diameter it is. I also have a set of thin wall Harbor Freight lug nut sockets which may be what I actually used.

I assume it came from the factory with 5 bolts and no studs. It was used when I bought it.

Did you get a chance to measure those holes?

I went to Lowes today to try to find a socket in 13/16 (21mm) that would go down that hole....but couldn't find one. Looked for Spark plug sockets ect...nothing that I saw would work. Then I went to a tire shop see if they could find a socket or for some advise. He said not enough space for a socket...but he did say I could either order 1/2" threaded lug bolts online or go to a trailer store which would have them possibly with smaller heads. Thoughts?

Lil Foot · May 12, 2020

Being a Toolmaker with a shop, the options are almost endless for me, but I realize not everyone is in my situation. How about new bolts with an Allen, a 12 point, Torx, or a rebated hex head?

PNWBXer · May 12, 2020

Lil Foot said:
Being a Toolmaker with a shop, the options are almost endless for me, but I realize not everyone is in my situation. How about new bolts with an Allen, a 12 point, Torx, or a rebated hex head?

That would be awesome if they were tapered like a lug nut. Straight/untapered bolts wont work since spacer is milled for taped bolts/nuts. My internet search isn't bearing any fruit since most 1/2" threaded lug bolts have 13/16 heads on them.

Lil Foot · May 13, 2020

PNWBXer said:
That would be awesome if they were tapered like a lug nut. Straight/untapered bolts wont work since spacer is milled for taped bolts/nuts. My internet search isn't bearing any fruit since most 1/2" threaded lug bolts have 13/16 heads on them.

Understood. Mine aren't tapered, assumed yours were the same. My bad.

PoTreeBoy · May 13, 2020

1 Do you have a 3/4 socket?
2 Will it fit in your spacer holes?
3 What size and thread are your wheel hubs and studs?
4 I see 1/2" and 12mm acorn (tapered) lug nuts on-line with 3/4" heads
5 Use 5 studs and nuts to hold the adapter to the hub. If your studs are 1/2", you may be able to use the nuts that came with the spacers.

PNWBXer · May 13, 2020

PoTreeBoy said:
1 Do you have a 3/4 socket?
2 Will it fit in your spacer holes?
3 What size and thread are your wheel hubs and studs?
4 I see 1/2" and 12mm acorn (tapered) lug nuts on-line with 3/4" heads
5 Use 5 studs and nuts to hold the adapter to the hub. If your studs are 1/2", you may be able to use the nuts that came with the spacers.

1. Yes
2. No
3. 1/2
4. 3/4 wont fit (at least mine wont..it's close..but no dice. Might be worth a trip to see if I can get a skinny 3/4" socket to fit)
5. Studs on plate and spacer are 1/2". The nuts that came with the spacer are 11/16 and fit down the hole so I can order more of those from some place if I need them. Adapter = Spacer? Anyway, Kubuta for some reason doesn't do straight studs or bolts but both (3 lug bolts plus 2 studs with lug nuts on the rear wheels...BX2380). I don't know why they do that..but that is what they do. So can either add three 1/2" studs to the two existing studs to replace the lug bolts (possibly welding or good locktite) or find lug bolts with 11/16 heads..or a spline type lug bolt if it's not too expensive.

thebicman · May 13, 2020

OK. I have a possible solution. Look into tamper proof wheel nuts. Some use a key that grabs the inside of the lug nut. That should give you room to fit. The negative is the cost to do it on your tractor. There may be a way but it's looking like the other brand spacers may be your best option.

PoTreeBoy · May 13, 2020

I think Kubota uses 2 studs and the remainder bolts to make wheel installation easier. Mine has 6 total but still 2 studs.
So, if you're sure they're 1/2", just get 3 (6 total) more studs and nuts from your Kubota dealer. Use the nuts that came with the spacers to attach the spacers and the Kubota nuts to attach the wheels.

BXHoosier · May 13, 2020

PNWBXer said:
Did you get a chance to measure those holes?

I measured all of my 13/16 sockets and they all measure 1.095 (1-3/32). Measuring the holes in the spacers means I would have to remove a wheel weight to get the wheel off. I would guess that my spacers have larger holes for some reason.

BManFX4 · May 14, 2020

PNWBXer said:
So i just got these in the mail for my Bx2380.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012SOTV9G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The problem is the hole for the lug nuts only fit a 11/16 socket and the lugs on the tractor are 13/16. Because my lack of knowledge on the subject....I was wondering if I could replace the 13/16 integrated stud/head with a regular threaded stud with 11/16 lug nuts? It seems all the studs are the same size...just lug nuts have different size heads... ie, the 11/16 and 13/16 lug nuts fit the studs on the tractor.

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Use the lug nuts that came with your wheel spacers to hold the spacer to the hub. Buy six 1/2" x 20 x 1-3/4" Grade 8 bolts, thread them from the back of the hub and put red Loctite on them before you seat them.

Use whatever lug nuts you like to hold the wheel to the spacer.

BManFX4 · May 14, 2020

B737 said:
the amount of energy and forces going on at the rear axle of even a tiny tractor like ours, is this something you want to "make work"?

get your $50 back, and you'll have the new ones in just a few days. i know im being a pest
http://www.bro-tek.com/wheel_spacers/

$190 + $40 for shipping is ridiculous for a 2" spacer. The ECCPP spacers are made to support a Jeep - substantially more torque, weight, shear forces, etc. than a BX2380 will ever subject them to.

Get rid of the Kubota bolts and install three 1/2" x 20 x 1-3/4" grade 8 bolts. Use the lug nuts that came with the spacer to hold them to the hub - use whatever lug nuts you want to hold the wheel to the spacer.

Buy beer with the $175 you saved yourself.

B737 · May 14, 2020

BManFX4 said:
$190 + $40 for shipping is ridiculous for a 2" spacer. The ECCPP spacers are made to support a Jeep - substantially more torque, weight, shear forces, etc. than a BX2380 will ever subject them to.

Dude. The spacers were installed in about 30 minutes with zero fuss. My time, worth it.

BManFX4 · May 14, 2020

B737 said:
Dude. The spacers were installed in about 30 minutes with zero fuss. My time, worth it.

And I installed mine in 60 minutes with zero fuss. $175 saved, worth it.

armylifer · May 17, 2020

Okay, after reading this thread I did not see anyone that mentioned trimming down the outside of the socket that fits the lug bolts. I do not have a lathe so I had to use a bench grinder to trim one of my deep well sockets to fit inside the hole in the spacers that I bought. I am not sure how much I trimmed my socket down but I did it using my bench grinder and it worked perfectly. If you have a lathe you can trim it more precisely than I did with my grinder, but even using just my grinder to trim the socket it only took a few minutes to make the socket fit in the spacer hole and tighten the lug bolts.

BXHoosier · May 17, 2020

BXHoosier said:
I measured all of my 13/16 sockets and they all measure 1.095 (1-3/32). Measuring the holes in the spacers means I would have to remove a wheel weight to get the wheel off. I would guess that my spacers have larger holes for some reason.

I measured the counterbores in my spacers and they are 1-1/8”. Had to pull off a rear tire anyway to replace a leaking valve stem.

PNWBXer · May 18, 2020

BXHoosier said:
I measured the counterbores in my spacers and they are 1-1/8”. Had to pull off a rear tire anyway to replace a leaking valve stem.

can you send me the link (assuming you got them online) to those spacers? My holes are not even an inch wide.

BXHoosier · May 18, 2020

ECCPP 5x114.3 Wheel Spacers 5 Lug 5x4.5 to 5x4.5 5x114.3mm 1.5" 82.5mm CB Compatible with Jeep Liberty Mercury Grand Marquis Mountaineer XLT Ford Mustang with 1/2x20 Studs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013AD1KIE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_R1TWEbB2AJ8FY

wrong wheel spacers maybe? or can I change out bolts?

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