Front Tire came off Rim.

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

Does Kabota have Road Side assistance on a New Tractor? Tire looks like it came off rim while making a tight turn.

Any chance for Tire Repair on a Sat night during snow storm?

Bluegill · Dec 14, 2013

tsafa said:
Does Kabota have Road Side assistance on a New Tractor? Tire looks like it came off rim while making a tight turn.

Any chance for Tire Repair on a Sat night during snow storm?

Low air pressure?

Load on the FEL and no counter weight?

I've fixed tractor tires at home. Just pry it back on and air it up.

UnionMan · Dec 14, 2013

Never done a Tractor tire, but use to use a ratchet strap on ATV tires to get the bead to seat. I dont see why that would work on a front tire of a tractor.

UnionMan

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

Bluegill said:
Low air pressure?

Load on the FEL and no counter weight?

I've fixed tractor tires at home. Just pry it back on and air it up.

No. It is dead flat. The tire is in the rim, but the seal has broken around the edge, so I can not just put air in there.

500 lb counter weight on the back.

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

UnionMan said:
Never done a Tractor tire, but use to use a ratchet strap on ATV tires to get the bead to seat. I dont see why that would work on a front tire of a tractor.

UnionMan

I did not think of a ratchet around the tire. Does the front tire take have a normal size air valve for putting air into it. I have an small air compressor for cars and trucks. Would that fit on an L3800 front tire?

Bluegill · Dec 14, 2013

Must of been low on air?

Yes it'll have a regular valve stem. And the ratchet strap should work.

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

Bluegill said:
Must of been low on air?

Yes it'll have a regular valve stem. And the ratchet strap should work.

The tire did not look low on pressure. Unless perhaps the 500lb counter-weight was preventing the front end from putting enough weight on the front tire to show that it was low on pressure.

I will try the ratchet strap tomorrow. My thought is to use the front end loader to raise the tractor in order to get the strap around it and inflate it. Let me know if this seems like a good idea (I know book says not to do this sort of thing). If it works, you guys saved me a bunch of money from having to send the tractor back to the dealer. Thanks.

Bluegill · Dec 14, 2013

tsafa said:
The tire did not look low on pressure. Unless perhaps the 500lb counter-weight was preventing the front end from putting enough weight on the front tire to show that it was low on pressure.

I will try the ratchet strap tomorrow. My thought is to use the front end loader to raise the tractor in order to get the strap around it and inflate it. Let me know if this seems like a good idea (I know book says not to do this sort of thing). If it works, you guys saved me a bunch of money from having to send the tractor back to the dealer. Thanks.

It's fine to lift the front of the tractor with the bucket.

If that doesn't work, take the tire & rim off and run it down to the local tire shop. No way I'd take the whole tractor in for a flat.

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

Bluegill said:
It's fine to lift the front of the tractor with the bucket.

If that doesn't work, take the tire & rim off and run it down to the local tire shop. No way I'd take the whole tractor in for a flat.

Great advice. Thanks.

Since, we are on the subject of Flats... what would you do if on of the rear tires ever goes flat? Is that something that you guys would handle yourself? or does that go in for service?

lsmurphy · Dec 14, 2013

Many moons ago........

I bought my 'highly' educated brother (multiple degrees, 6 figure earner) an air compressor for christmas. He gave me this look as to say "WTF do I need this for?"

Everyman needs tools.

And wherewithal.

We don't even talk anymore..........I don't do christmas anymore either.

As for the roll-off on the front? No-brainer with a FEL. That sucker would be off and down the road in a matter of minutes.

As for the rear? You need a jack and big wrench........and if its full of ballast? .....yeah,....... you need a pair of those too.......

lsmurphy · Dec 14, 2013

Seriously, on the rears........

That is what I keep 6x6 timber drops and plywood around for.

If in the field......

Plywood between the ground and jack......bucket down.....
jack it up.......slide timbers underneath for support......remove wheel.......roll wheel/tire on to utility trailer........take into town for repair or replace.

Or if you got money........Pay the $250-$300 service call plus repair.

tsafa · Dec 14, 2013

lsmurphy said:
Seriously, on the rears........

That is what I keep 6x6 timber drops and plywood around for.

If in the field......

Plywood between the ground and jack......bucket down.....
jack it up.......slide timbers underneath for support......remove wheel.......roll wheel/tire on to utility trailer........take into town for repair or replace.

Or if you got money........Pay the $250-$300 service call plus repair.

Ok... looks like I better start shopping around for a serious jack.

What do you think of this one:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/big-red-12-ton-bottle-jack?cm_vc=-10005

Says 12 tons. Looks tall enough to reach the rear axle.

Or this one:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/big-red-6-ton-bottle-jack?cm_vc=-10005

lsmurphy · Dec 14, 2013

Tire wall height will determine the amount of lift you will need to get the tire off.
If you went out to your tractor in the morning to a flat rear tire and your tire has 8 inches of wall height, you will need a jack that has enough reach to get to the bottom of the axle and THEN give you 9 inches of lift to get the tire off.

The other thing, with large tires, you will not just pick it up and slide it on the lugs, you'll need to adjust the height of the tractor as you install the wheel.....up a 1/4".......down an 1/8".......etc.......

And even with blocking underneath, you won't ketch me reaching for a bottle jack with the wheel half on half off.

Look to a heavy floor jack........not to tote around but one you can throw in the back of the truck if you have a flat in the field.

85Hokie · Dec 15, 2013

lsmurphy said:
Many moons ago........

I bought my 'highly' educated brother (multiple degrees, 6 figure earner) an air compressor for christmas. He gave me this look as to say "WTF do I need this for?"

Everyman needs tools.

And wherewithal.

We don't even talk anymore..........I don't do christmas anymore either.

As for the roll-off on the front? No-brainer with a FEL. That sucker would be off and down the road in a matter of minutes.

As for the rear? You need a jack and big wrench........and if its full of ballast? .....yeah,....... you need a pair of those too.......

Murphy,

ever seen the ol starting fluid trick? Sounds crazy as hell, but I saw it work one time! Take the tire, shoot some starting fluid around inside and then throw a match inside

.......expansion of the air fills the tire, and seals the bead on the rim! Shocked the sheeiut out of me.........no, I'll jack the tractor up and carry the tire in myself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A_XOWA-DAk

Benhameen · Dec 15, 2013

Personally I wouldn't pay to to have a front tire fixed unless it was the last option. At the least I would get the tire off and take it to a tire shop.

If you can't get the tire to reseat and you do have to take it off, you'll want to lower it back down so that there is weight on the tire to keep it from spinning when you are breaking loose the lug nuts. Of course you'll raise it back up before taking the lug nuts off completely.

One other thing to consider is that it went flat for a reason. So you probably have a puncture, if its not visible and still leaking air. You can use soap in a spray bottle, inflate the tire, spray the tire and look for the bubbles, if its not to bad I'd get a plug kit and plug it, otherwise you might have to get it patched.

This is the type of jack I keep around for the tractors.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/reese-towpowerreg;-farm-jack-54-in

Good luck...

Bluegill · Dec 15, 2013

My brother and I replaced the rear tires on our L3750 a couple years ago. Just need a stout bottle jack, big wrench, sledge hammer and a couple big crow bars.

That said, the tire shop will do it from now on!

gpreuss · Dec 15, 2013

I have always just used an automotive jack - they can go down very low, yet jack plenty high. In the field I'd go for a couple of thicknesses of plywood under it, and stick a couple of timbers or a jack stand to hold the weight once the wheel is up.
The auto jack has the advantage that you don't have to put your hands or arms under the tractor while jacking.
Also, remember that the tractor weighs less than a full sized pickup. Even with filled tires you are not putting a 2 ton jack to a strain.

tsafa · Dec 16, 2013

Tire Fixed.

After fussing with two Ratchet Strap and cheap compressor for a while, I used the FEL to jack up the tractor and remove the tire. I ended up going to 2 tire shops. The first tire-shop could not get the thick cold rubber to seal to the rim even after they put the tire in front of a heater 20 minutes. The second shop I went to more or less used a 1/4 can of tire sealer around the rim edge to try to get a seal and finally got it. The freezing temperature was the culprit. I was very happy to give the mechanic $20.

I am able to finish the snow plowing job. I will post pictures of the mountains of snow I created later today.

Bluegill · Dec 16, 2013

That's good to hear!

tsafa · Dec 16, 2013

400' x 400' lot with 8 inches of snow cleared after tire fix.

Front Tire came off Rim.

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