Does tire grooving really work?

Thunder chicken · Feb 7, 2020

fruitcakesa said:
Driveway is solid ice, so I made a few passes up and down chewing up the ice with the rear chains.
Pushed off excess snow in a few spots I missed yesterday
All in 2WD with no steering issues at all.
Another vote for groovin'

glad to hear you had success grooving your R1's! would you be able to post a picture when you have time? we understand that plowing just got a lot funner, and you may not have much time now

D2Cat · Feb 8, 2020

Question to folks who recently purchased a tire groover. Which one did you purchase, where did you purchase it, what tip did you use. Post a link if you can, please.

I'm going to buy one but will probably only use it one time that I can foresee. Need to set up some kind of rental agreement with forum members like done on other forums.

fruitcakesa · Feb 8, 2020

D2Cat said:
Question to folks who recently purchased a tire groover. Which one did you purchase, where did you purchase it, what tip did you use. Post a link if you can, please.

I'm going to buy one but will probably only use it one time that I can foresee. Need to set up some kind of rental agreement with forum members like done on other forums.

I bought this kit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/270665174651
I used the included #4 blade.
I likely won't need to use it again for a long time [tractor will need new tires someday]
I like the forum rental idea, if the details can be worked

fruitcakesa · Feb 8, 2020

The grooves after sitting in the sun for a little while

D2Cat · Feb 12, 2020

There are round blades and square blades for the groovers. They are the same width of cut, one just has a square bottom and one rounded. What is the purpose of one or the other? What is the preference for big lugged R4's?

Kennyd4110 · Feb 13, 2020

D2Cat said:
There are round blades and square blades for the groovers. They are the same width of cut, one just has a square bottom and one rounded. What is the purpose of one or the other? What is the preference for big lugged R4's?

My tool only came with he rounded blades, they work perfectly.

fruitcakesa · Feb 13, 2020

Kennyd4110 said:
My tool only came with he rounded blades, they work perfectly.

Mine also only came with the rounded blades

NHSleddog · Feb 13, 2020

Just went out and did some clean up.

dfixit1 · Feb 16, 2020

D2Cat said:
Question to folks who recently purchased a tire groover. Which one did you purchase, where did you purchase it, what tip did you use. Post a link if you can, please.

I'm going to buy one but will probably only use it one time that I can foresee. Need to set up some kind of rental agreement with forum members like done on other forums.

I purchased mine on amazon from TS Warehouse, currently $84
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004AW7XYU

D2Cat · Feb 16, 2020

Thanks guys for the info. Found one on Ebay and it's on the way. (with round tips)

fast*st · May 12, 2020

I have the heavy duty tire groover, came with a handful of blades in different sizes as well as a siping head that holds three grooving blades upsidedown to make 6 sipe cuts per pass. On my plow truck, siping the rear tires increased breakaway torque by 2x at least, much happier when plowing.

NHSleddog · May 13, 2020

I can say the grooving on the R4's also increases traction in dirt as well. You just need to look at all the stuff stuck in the grooves to see the proof.

D2Cat · May 13, 2020

A couple of weeks ago I was waiting for a delivery truck so I waited by grooving the front tires. I left about 3/4" on the outside to possibly help save chunking on gravel roads. I only got the front finished. These are older tires have have considerable wear, but fine for what I use the tractor for.

The day after grooving I needed to go 1/4 mile on asphalt road to get some fencing supplies. The difference in sound was like street tires on a PU as compared to aggressive mud grips. Can't say about traction, it didn't matter!

NHSleddog · May 13, 2020

D2Cat said:
A couple of weeks ago I was waiting for a delivery truck so I waited by grooving the front tires. I left about 3/4" on the outside to possibly help save chunking on gravel roads. I only got the front finished. These are older tires have have considerable wear, but fine for what I use the tractor for.

The day after grooving I needed to go 1/4 mile on asphalt road to get some fencing supplies. The difference in sound was like street tires on a PU as compared to aggressive mud grips. Can't say about traction, it didn't matter!

Nice Job! D2

chrismane · May 17, 2020

Great. Looks very nice.

D2Cat · May 17, 2020

It's really a pretty easy process. I got the groover in the winter, but decided to wait until warmer weather to use. The groover depth is adjustable, but the tip the cutting knife is clamped to needs to set down on the tire to heat it as much as possible. The speed the groover is pushed determines the ease of the cut. Slower means more heat, less pressure to push.

I'll get to the rears before too long!

gmbc · Dec 2, 2020

Is there a link for tire groove tool and blades. On B2650 tires is it a #4 blade to use
Thanks

D2Cat · Dec 2, 2020

Might check post #25 in this link. https://www.orangetractortalks.com/...nterest-in-r14-tires.48364/page-2#post-425717

tinman4240 · Dec 23, 2020

So grooving R4's work. Great idea. Nice job you guys did. Another problem with R4"s is they are a directional tire. I'm frequently in reverse using my 3pt SB and snow pusher with a backdrag edge. The R4's are just not cutting it in the snow. I'm clearing 30 driveways a storm so i can't afford traction issues. The rears are filled, too. There are better options. grooving might be one. Another is new tires. Michelin has the CROSSGRIP that are becoming quite popular with the Canadian boys running L6060"s to clear snow. The Michelin CROSSGRIP"s are a bidirectional radial that give excellent grip forward or reverse as well as a smoother ride on pavement. Certainly an all season rugged tire. Big bucks for new shoes. Kubota Corp should hook with Michelin and offer a snow package for the Grand L and M series like jd does with their 4 series and Nokian Tires.

GreensvilleJay · Dec 27, 2020

tinman. spend the time and flip the rears around,assuming you spend more time going backwards. I did that with the D-14/blade unit and it made a world of difference.

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