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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #71
bird dogger

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Default Re: Winter Front Grille Cover for Kubota B2650

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Bird dogger - Did you ever consider setting up a deal with a local dealer. Offer him a deal on covers if he will let you on the lot to measure and make patterns for all the different models he has. In your area, I would think they would jump at the chance to get a good local supplier to help his customers with cold weather warm ups. His mark up is now his and he doesn't have to share with kubota. Sounds like a win-win.

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Hi conropl. I haven't considered that...or even thought about that. Maybe there would be/is a wider market for winter fronts other than the B2650/B3350.
I'll be needing some filters shortly and will have to pose your question to my salesman and see what his thoughts would be on that scenario. I'd have no idea what a dealership might consider or if it would put them at risk in any way. Maybe someone on OTT would have an idea and would comment on that possibility. Another good question! Thanks for asking, conropl.
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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #72
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Very interested in getting a set made for my MX5000. I think the nose piece would be easier to make than the one on the B3350, as it isn't a round nose, it's more square. The side panels would be pretty straight forward, as well.
I won't need it for the remainder of this winter but I'll get in touch with you later in the summer and see if we can work something out.
Freewheel3, I'd be happy to work something up for covers to fit your MX5000. Looking at some pictures on the web, I think you're right in that it wouldn't be too difficult. It's hard to find some really good detailed pics of the hood/grill area on the net. But it looks like your hood opens right underneath the front headlights and then there is also some grille work below that? Whenever you'd like, send me a PM or an email and we could start making a plan that would fit your needs. With a few good pics of your grill and sides it shouldn't be too hard to make a dandy set of plans for you. Could even start some plans this winter if you'd like.
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I am hoping for a set for a B3000/B3030 someday.
Hi TimP. I'd be happy to help you out with a set of covers too. I looked at some pics of your model on the net and from what I could see it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something just as nice for your tractor. Whenever you'd like...send me a PM or email and we can come up with a plan and some tips on making the templates/patterns. I'd be ready to work on it anytime you could. Thanks for your interest!!
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Just thought Iíd post an update on my B2650 engine temps when using my front mounted snow blower and bird doggerís winter grill covers. I blew about 3-4 inches of snow yesterday in outside temperatures of a warm 28-30 F. With all three covers in place my temperature gauge stayed at a nice and steady 3 bars while running at fairly easy engine loads. At three bars the engine oil filter reads around 195 F when read with an infrared heat gun. At one point I was cutting back a snowbank along one section of driveway so the blower and engine where working a bit harder. The gauge then went up to 4 bars. I checked the temperature of the engine oil filter and it read 222-223 F. As soon as I reduced the load on the engine the temps dropped back to 3 bars.
Iím very happy with still being able to use the covers at these warm outside temperatures. I thought the oil temps might go higher with the warm weather but the engine still ran at good temperatures and I didnít get any blowing snow under the hood.
I havenít had a chance to use the covers in really cold weather yet and am curious to see if the engine temperatures will warm up into the 3 bars range on the gauge. If I donít get to test this out at 30 or 40 below I wonít be too disappointed. I will happily wait till next year.
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Default Re: Winter Front Grille Cover for Kubota B2650

Nice job and write up. I also have a B2650 with cab. Have the same issue being on the 49th in Ontario. I now have a cardboard in front of the rad. Gets up to 2 bars.
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Nice job and write up. I also have a B2650 with cab. Have the same issue being on the 49th in Ontario. I now have a cardboard in front of the rad. Gets up to 2 bars.
I'm not so sure that your engine running at 2 bars is hot enough.
Have you read bird dogger's post #65 one page back on this thread? He has some interesting links in the post about diesel engine temps. Also check out this post on the OTT forum. https://www.orangetractortalks.com/f...ng+temperature
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Nice job and write up. I also have a B2650 with cab. Have the same issue being on the 49th in Ontario. I now have a cardboard in front of the rad. Gets up to 2 bars.
Hi Kubota Paul. I did get your message and PM sent your way.
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Just thought Iíd post an update on my B2650 engine temps when using my front mounted snow blower and bird doggerís winter grill covers. I blew about 3-4 inches of snow yesterday in outside temperatures of a warm 28-30 F. With all three covers in place my temperature gauge stayed at a nice and steady 3 bars while running at fairly easy engine loads. At three bars the engine oil filter reads around 195 F when read with an infrared heat gun. At one point I was cutting back a snowbank along one section of driveway so the blower and engine where working a bit harder. The gauge then went up to 4 bars. I checked the temperature of the engine oil filter and it read 222-223 F. As soon as I reduced the load on the engine the temps dropped back to 3 bars.
Iím very happy with still being able to use the covers at these warm outside temperatures. I thought the oil temps might go higher with the warm weather but the engine still ran at good temperatures and I didnít get any blowing snow under the hood.
I havenít had a chance to use the covers in really cold weather yet and am curious to see if the engine temperatures will warm up into the 3 bars range on the gauge. If I donít get to test this out at 30 or 40 below I wonít be too disappointed. I will happily wait till next year.
Nice update, Eagle ! We must think alike. Last weekend when it was in the high 30's here I ran a temperature test and recorded some temp readings of engine oil, hydraulic filters, coolant, etc. at the different segment levels of the temperature gauge on the dashboard. I'm trying to organize them into an understandable format now and then I'll post that info. Its looking like my readings are in line with yours considering the temperature spread within the segments displayed.

Re real cold weather: You'll find even in the real cold temps (well below 0įF) with the covers on the engine should still warm up to mid range. At least mine did. But agreed, let's wait til next year or beyond to confirm that!
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Default Re: Winter Front Grille Cover for Kubota B2650

In the interest of science and for all inquisitive minds : Last weekend I decided to run an experiment to look into some oil/engine temperature questions posted here shortly before by Deepwoods, Orange1forme, etc. The experiment also falls in line with Eagleís findings. I just happened to take a few more readings at higher gauge temperatures as displayed on the B2650. Itís in no way a scientific test but at least it does provide some insight into the different temperatures found at those locations. Using an infrared heat gun and recording the highest/average reading for each location. Using a PTO snow blower for loading the tractor required a sustained heavy load to get the gauge to raise up to the 6th segment. As soon as the blower was stopped so I could quickly shoot some temps the cooling took place just as quickly. Since the temps were recorded on the way ďupĒ the segment display, the first readings might be a tad low because heat was still being accumulated and stopping the load to record gave the heat a chance to dissipate. At the upper end, the readings should be pretty accurate as it took a while to get there and everything was pretty well warmed up by then. Hereís the setup and the recorded resulting temperatures:
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From the oil pan/sump temperature...it looks like one shouldn't be afraid at all to run the B2650 loaded where the dashboard display registers anywhere from the 3 to 6 segments. Hopefully others with more knowledge will comment too.

Note: Sorry, it was impossible to format the findings in a post and have the columns align so I wound up taking a picture of the Word document. If anyone can make better use of the Word document for displaying it that would be great. Otherwise, I hope you can read it.
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