Bx - Increase loader lifting power

BX Woody

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Just a general question. Would larger diameter cylinders increase the lifting capacity of the BX?
By the time I put on the quick attach and then the forks I’m probably down to around 350lbs of lift cap.
 

Papadiver

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Just a general question. Would larger diameter cylinders increase the lifting capacity of the BX?
By the time I put on the quick attach and then the forks I***8217;m probably down to around 350lbs of lift cap.
I am getting ready to purchase a BX2380 with quick attach. I am looking at the same numbers and deciding what I can do. I think if we try to modify it to lift more it will just stress other parts on the tractor. It will probably pick up more than 350lbs but safety could be an issue especially if on inclines. My Ford 1720 is rated at 950 lbs. I have had way more than that on the loader and it will lift it but the control of the unit dimishes quickly. My unit will mainly be used for mowing without the loader attached. But with the loader it will be great for working in close quarters and make small projects go a lot quicker. But I feel I will be able to reach its limits quickly.
 
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dalola

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All the hydraulic components of a tractor work together as a balanced system. Sure, bigger cylinders have more lift capacity, but do you have the pump capacity to drive them? Do you have the ballast/framework to support it?

You're getting yourself into trouble here. If you need more capacity, get a bigger tractor.

And live to help others do the same someday. :)
 

redfernclan

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A friend of mine had a tractor dealership for years and when I talked to him about bumping up the pressure on my BX, he said the lifting capacity of the loader is regulated by the front end. That would be the weak point.
I raised my pressure 200 psi and noticed a big difference while still staying under 2,000 psi. I would not recommend increasing the cyl size. To many other things coming into play with the geometry of everything else.
 

edritchey

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Safest way to increase the lifting capacity of a BX is to trade it for a MX, ;)
 

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Just a general question. Would larger diameter cylinders increase the lifting capacity of the BX?
By the time I put on the quick attach and then the forks I’m probably down to around 350lbs of lift cap.
As Red said - you can increase about 10% on the lift.... really is a 20 cent fix.
But as others have said - the tractor is designed around THAT original capacity.....

YOU might need to go B or L
 

BX Woody

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A friend of mine had a tractor dealership for years and when I talked to him about bumping up the pressure on my BX, he said the lifting capacity of the loader is regulated by the front end. That would be the weak point.
I raised my pressure 200 psi and noticed a big difference while still staying under 2,000 psi. I would not recommend increasing the cyl size. To many other things coming into play with the geometry of everything else.
Interesting, how did you increase 200psi?
 

dirtydeed

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Interesting, how did you increase 200psi?
Get yourself a workshop manual and a pressure tester/shim kit.Pressure tester/shim kit can be had from BXpanded (https://bxpanded.com/pressure-test) or kens bolt on hooks (http://www.boltonhooks.com/hydraulics.html). Or you can build your own to check hydraulic pressure. Adding shims to the relief valve ups the hydraulic pressure (which increases lift capacity of your loader) among other things. Many youtube videos and threads on it. You just need to be careful with increasing the pressure too high. Looks like your spec should be between 1790-1850 PSI.

alternatively, others have used correctly sized SS washers...but the shims can be ordered from dealers as well. I believe the increase is roughly 40psi/1mm of shim.
 
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dirtydeed

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edit above should read pressure change is approx 40psi increase/ 0.1mm ;)
 

SidecarFlip

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All the hydraulic components of a tractor work together as a balanced system. Sure, bigger cylinders have more lift capacity, but do you have the pump capacity to drive them? Do you have the ballast/framework to support it?

You're getting yourself into trouble here. If you need more capacity, get a bigger tractor.

And live to help others do the same someday. :)
Exactly. People tend to buy looking at price and then kick themselves down the road when the unit is too small.
 

BravoXray

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I used the BXpanded kit, really easy to test and adjust. When I got the tractor I couldn’t lift my welder generator with the forks, now I can lift it easily, but not really high, that is, if I curl it in close I can move it like I want, but it won’t lift straight up. It will now lift my loaded big job box into a pickup truck no problem. I’m happy with the results, and didn’t go over the maximum spec.

Jerry
 

BX Woody

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I used the BXpanded kit, really easy to test and adjust. When I got the tractor I couldn’t lift my welder generator with the forks, now I can lift it easily, but not really high, that is, if I curl it in close I can move it like I want, but it won’t lift straight up. It will now lift my loaded big job box into a pickup truck no problem. I’m happy with the results, and didn’t go over the maximum spec.

Jerry
I just wanted to thank everyone for their thoughts on this issue. I reviewed the YouTube links and this looks easy to do.

Jerry, I***8217;m heading over to the bx expanded site now to check it out!