Do Not Buy a Kubota

bcbull378

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GL3830,fel,brush hog,pallet forks,disc,gannon,auger,springtooth,plow,drag,ripper
Sep 6, 2011
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Ventura Ca
First let me say Im a die hard Cat guy have been for years, 2 years ago I bought a L3830 because we needed a wheel tractor for our auger and let me say its one hell of a machine. Im more than impressed with the preformance it pulls hard , very versital so far it has passed evry test I have thrown at it. I have to say I had to eat alota crow after buying an orange tractor after having Cats on the ranch for as long as I can remember and Im 56. I now have 852 hours on my L3830 and there hasnt been a flaw one great machine.....Dan
 

TripleR

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BX2200, BX2660, L5740 HSTC, M8540HDC and some other tractors and equipment
Sep 16, 2011
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SE Missouri
I grew up on a farm and didn't even own a tractor for a while. My brother and I later bought a couple of good used Fords and a Case; couldn't afford a John Deere. In 2003 I held my breath and bought my first Kubota, still couldn't afford a John Deere. I did eventually buy a new John Deere SCUT, but our last three tractors were Kubota, 2 new and one used.
 

pine limb

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MX4700DT
Dec 6, 2011
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Savannah, Ga
Does someone have the inside track to getting a response from Kubota? History-I own a JD 990, and love it. I wanted to add another tractor so I called my dealer to get another JD. He swore that if I bought a Kubota, I would be much happier. I trusted his judgement, and due to an injury at the time, bought an MX4700DT, sight unseen and had it delivered to my farm. While different from my JD, it was starting to grow on me. However, at 5.9 hours, while mowing through head-high dog fennels, I ran over a dead pine limb that popped up, and went right through the PLASTIC shroud and straight into the RADIATOR. I sent Kubota an email, thinking that they would at least offer some help-it has been over a week, and no response what so ever. My dealer did agree to help to a degree-we are at $575.00, and he has offered to put it on. Now I have to load the tractor and drive 150 miles round trip, and then take it to a machine shop to have a protective covering put over the shroud. While I do like the power, and most of the construction, of this tractor, the hood design is a major design flaw. Toys are built with plastic, not tractors.
PS-My JD has a metal shroud, and I have used it to clear roads, with several dents, but not puntures.
 

TripleR

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BX2200, BX2660, L5740 HSTC, M8540HDC and some other tractors and equipment
Sep 16, 2011
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SE Missouri
Sadly plastic is becoming all too common on tractors now, all of ours including John Deere have more than I like.

Sorry, I can't help you on the inside track with Kubota.
 

GEP

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Jun 16, 2010
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Benton Harbor, Mi
I have owned a Kubota M8540 tractor for two years. From day one the tractor has had a noise in the shuttle shift. I have talked to everyone from the dealer that sold me this horrid machine to the head man in corporate Kubota. This tractor has been in the repair shop 3 times and the problem still exists. I am fed up with the situation after fighting for 2 years for a fair resolution to this problem to no avail. I advise anyone thinking of purchasing a Kubota product to think long and hard before you take the plunge. Kubota is a bad company to do business with and BUYER BEWARE![/QU

I owned a Kubota for 20 years and i am happy. Its great machine. Of course
all equipment needs to be maintained properly to depend on it. Yes parts are expencive. Just check bevore you buy any tractor where they are made. Check out John Deer what a jock a real money grabing pile of junk
 

birddogger

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May 29, 2011
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I ran over a dead pine limb that popped up, and went right through the PLASTIC shroud and straight into the RADIATOR.
Last I knew, tractors aren't made for driving into obstacles, tree limbs, walls and etc. These machines are made simply for pulling; pull a baler, hay-wagon, or plow. They'll pull all day every day. Most problems come from asking them to do more than they were built for.

The original OP complained about noise? I use 30 dB earplugs and still have ringing ears after a couple hours of use; yeah, they are noisy. They are farm equipment, not luxury sedans.
 

WinnieCouple

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L245DT, razor brush hog, small disc, double bottom plow, 5' Turfline Box Blade.
Aug 1, 2011
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Hico, Texas
I love my little Kubota... even though its broke, i'll get it fixed, and I'll get every penny's worth I can out of her....
=)
 

RDR

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M5400,B6100E,K008,L175,TG1860Diesel,JD355D,3)Leyland 154D's,YM2000,IH1466
Oct 13, 2009
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Danevang, Tx.
I've not partial to any color. I started on a 2N cultivating a vineyard at age 12. Dad added an 8N after purchasing another 20 acres of vineyard. When I was 15 he got a new MF 25 diesel. I never wanted to drive the N's again. Since then I have operated a JD 7020, 7520, 4430, 820 three cyl. 720 diesel, 830 2 cyl. diesel, MF 255, MF 1135 and TW 20 Ford. Since then I have owned and used a MM1050, JD LA, two British Leyland 154 diesels, Kubota L245DT, L345 and B6100E.

The tractors I still have are the Leylands and last two Kubotas. I sold the L245DT because even though it had the same hp as the Leylands, it wouldn't pull as much as the Leyland twd with weights and loaded tires. I like the B6100 for small jobs because it is so nimble. The engine is so worn out it won't start below 55 degrees unless I cover it with an old comforter with a 250 watt quartz light next to the engine. Yes, the glow plugs work. It has so much blowby you have to hold your breath around it if the wind isn't blowing. It starts and does the job. What do you expect for $250.

The L345 was bought for $500. It was so worn out you had to tow it to start it. We towed it at least 3 times a year to start it and drive it around. Since everything worked on it, after 5 years I finally got around to rebuild the engine. I found the the pistons from an L185 engine I aquired for $50 would work. I needed both of them. I wasn't too happy paying $307 for just rings.

After I started using the tractor I have found many faults. I think the designer never operated a tractor. Don't get off the left side with the throttle back. It will catch on your pants. (I am 5'8" tall and weigh 160. My butt isn't that big.) Be careful pushing the clutch in. There is a bolt on top of the transmission that will catch you pants leg. Always dismount to hook up implements. the seat is so high you can't reach down from the seat to pull the lift arms onto the pins. Almost forgot the radius on the lift arms is so that when you move them in they are longer making judging when backing up to implements a pain.

When the top bearing down in the steering box went out a couple of weeks ago, I tried a Leyland on my two row hipper. It did fine. I can reach down from the seat and hook up implements. There is more room on the tractor even though it is smaller.

A few tractors I have used and forgot to mention, Ford 3600, 5600, 6700, 1910, 3910, 8600, IH 706 and 1086. Didn't have many hours on any of them. Didn't like the 1086.

I turned 60 last month. If you are a diehard for one color, you probably haven't owned anything else. there is good and bad in all brands. Some more than others. One thing I have found is that the newer "compact" tractors are a lot of hp with no room or weight.
 

fj40dave

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B2650, LA534, BH77, TPD35, RCF2060, BB1566, RGA1258
Sep 24, 2009
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Yelm, WA
I have a Farmall Cub....1956 model....it's yard art now....

I have worked on a Ford-NewHolland (2 cyl rebuild)...

I rebuilt a L295DT last year (see signature line)....

I don't actually own a running/working tractor - no real need - but I would really like to have one just the same.
Not any specific model (but an older Kubota would be cool)...

I believe you just have to be diligent in your pursuit of remedy....and resourceful in the application of effort, and you're going to find the answers/solutions you need.
 

j022774

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BX 25 fel, backhoe, 60" belly mower
Jun 5, 2012
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Crossville tn
I"ve had mine for 18 months and have had no problems mind you I have a smaller version. Sorry to hear you've had problems.

BX25 with the standard FED and BH and a 60" deck. 5 acres
 

tempforce

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B2650HSDC
Jun 23, 2012
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bastrop, tx
i'm a new owner of orange. 5 months to be told. i have 150 hrs on the unit. so you know it hasn't been sitting around every day. the hst is noisy. very noisy at certain loads and engine speed. but that is the game with hydraulics. i'm hoping that with a upgrade of hydraulic oil at the recommended dump at 400 hrs. the sudt should be better and hopefully quieter than the factory udt which is in it now..
other than that, the lift and pull cylinders could of had larger diameters. but then the joints and arms would have to be stronger, right….
i'll be glad when i finish with the brushing. so i can paint and restore the k.t. back to new condition. as it is acquiring numerous battle scars..
 

turck

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m5140, JD2020, ford 850, farmal 240
Apr 20, 2013
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carthage, ny usa
I am a new M5140 Kubota owner and also have a noise issue in the hydraulics, but my noise seems to be coming from the steering lines. It does it more when its warmed up and more when it's idleing in nuetral. it sounds like something tapping the plastic hood. The dealer changed the pump and filters and it still does it, I also found a 2008 M6040 owner that has the same noise that they couldn't fix for him. I haven't heard of any others yet with this noise issue or a fix for it, any ideas.:confused:
 

hodge

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John Deere 790 John Deere 310 backhoe Bobcat 743
Nov 19, 2010
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I am a new M5140 Kubota owner and also have a noise issue in the hydraulics, but my noise seems to be coming from the steering lines. It does it more when its warmed up and more when it's idleing in nuetral. it sounds like something tapping the plastic hood. The dealer changed the pump and filters and it still does it, I also found a 2008 M6040 owner that has the same noise that they couldn't fix for him. I haven't heard of any others yet with this noise issue or a fix for it, any ideas.:confused:
Is there a performance loss or failure? Or is it just the noise? I'm not discounting your concern- noises bother me, too, and can be a clue and precursor to a future failure. I'm just curious to the conditions.
 

turck

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m5140, JD2020, ford 850, farmal 240
Apr 20, 2013
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carthage, ny usa
There is no performance issue, just periodic thumping noises. But ya gotta know me, that stuff drives me nuts. One of my other tractors is a 1967 2020 deere looks, runs like the day it left Dubuque. When I decided to buy a new tractor it was a easy decision to buy orange cause they don't build the <100hp green ones in USA anymore and all my neighbors are driving orange . I think the M5140 is a great tractor, I just wish they could eliminate the cause of the noise I am hearing, but so far no one is coming up with a fix.
 

WFM

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L3800
Apr 5, 2013
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Porter Maine
Hey I grew up shooting...running chain saws...hunting....loud cars/trucks...shooting....grinding/fabricating....and more rifle , shotgun and handgun rounds then I would want to count...and hearing protection ??? I never knew of it until I was 30. So now the loss of hearing helps with several things...(I'm sorry dear what did you say ?) and any possible noises others might hear...see life gets better with age.....
 

ibgolfr

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BX1850, 54" deck, Loader and rear blade
Nov 16, 2015
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Effingham, Il
OK, sorry. I'm flat out going to disagree with some of those comments. I don't work for KTC or get a spiff from them for flogging their tractors and generators so if I decide to crap all over them it would be OK. I do sense and feel your frustration and I hope you'll grant me your audience to submit my few comments on this.

Kubota is not a bad company to do business with and you've never done business with them yourself. You have been doing business with someone who does business with Kubota, and that's where this whole problem stems. This entire time you have been dealing with and talking to the wrong people, and they don't work for Kubota either!!

You've been dealing with an individual or individuals who work for a local company that paid a franchise fee to obtain a licence agreement for a specific period of time that allows them to be able to offer for sale "Kubota" branded products.

Part of that licencing agreement is a service and repair component, decor and signage package, technician training, and a review procedure, all important aspects associated with carrying on business as a 'dealer in Kubota stuff".

Kubota tractors have long ago earned their brand reputation, representing quality, reliability, value and performance to the point where Kubota tractors and farming machines are considered the 'Gold Standard' by which all other manufacturers aspire to achieve.

Now that doesn't mean that there is not a performance issue with your Kubota, indeed they may be, it's a machine.

Your issue and lack of a resolution after two years falls to two parties; your dealer and yourself.

Your dealer is probably not just a Kubota dealer. He's probably a multi-brand Ag Store, offering a number of manufacturers products, Kubota, Case, McCormick, Vemeer, New Holland etc. Because of this, multi-line dealers know enough about each line to be able to sell and service them, but they don't know enough about each line to become a specialist in that particular line.

They don't get to know all the service issues, recall information, serial number running production changes and other important information that a Kubota dealer that's up to his eyebrows in the brand would know from dealing intimatley with Kubota product exclusivley day in and day out.

If your dealer is in fact a 'stand alone' (offers Kubota only) he would represent the latest incarnation of a Kubota Franchise. He either was a multi-line Ag Dealer in the past and had taken down the signs of competing tractor brands, or is a fairly new Kubota dealer as the Kubota Tractor Corporation (KTC) is moving to further strengthen their brand quality and reputation by demanding their brick and mortar dealers stand with them offering only their product in an attempt to become Kubota specialists. KTC has recognized this as being a contributing factor to a certain degree of customer-dealer related issues.

In your case, effective conflict resolution involves systematic, methodical, unemotional escalation of an issue to higher and higher levels of oversight and it is done with letters, documentation and sometimes with legal or industry council representation so the consumer is fairly and properly represented in product merchantability issues.

In Alberta for instance, we have an Agricultural Equipment Ombudsman whos entire role and function is to assist consumers with Agricultural equipment warranty issues. Representing you, working with the dealer, the corporation and manufacturer to arrive at an equitable resolution, solution and compromise for all parties involved.

Your Kubota is a farm tractor, it's not an 'acreage or estate' tractor. It's size tells me you are earning at least part of your income off the land that tractor is working. Before you throw in the towel and out of frustration give up on Kubota, look into who in your province or state is in a position to help you, and believe me, that person or agency is there and can push buttons, submit paperwork and find the exact right way to make a believer out of you.

I just don't think you just have found that person yet and if you do undertake another kick at the can, I hope you'll update us, and I hope other OTT members chime in and can let you know what worked for them.

Anyone??
I had my dealer contact a tech. from Kubota with a question re: why the drift shaft was changed mid-year on the bx1860's. A new part was added and drive shaft was shortened. The tech. according to my dealer didn't have an answer and apparently didn't want to contact someone else in Kubota to get an answer. My local dealer tech. didn't even know that a change had taken place--this seemingly a long time past. Apparently Kubota does not send out service advisories when they make changes so the local tech. just have to fly by the seat of their pants when faced with something new. What a shame...apparently KUBOTA has gotten to big to be bothered.:mad: