Stop using your machine immediately!

Lil Foot said:

I should mention that both of these trailers pull great, on road, offroad, even in the dunes, but both of us wish we had added about 3ft to the tongue length. They are a beatch to back up, especially with the solid rear axle.

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Next to impossible to back up a short trailer. Very nice stuff Lil Foot!!

a LOT of parts for the Rhino are being slowly phased out, so it doesn't surprise me at all. I just bought one a couple months ago, fixed it up and give it to my brother. Little did I know, he's been wanting one since they came out but never had the money. Well now he's got one, it's his, out of my hair (hopefully) but at the same time I kinda miss it. He is absolutely TICKLED to finally own one.

Those doors you see on the Sidekicks? Teryx's? RTV's? Can-Am's? Every side-by-side with doors is a direct result of the Rhino debacle. So is the annoying reverse limiter among many other things. But it wasn't directly because of the Rhino, it was due to money-hungry attorneys who saw an opportunity. I actually got a letter from an attorney who practices locally right after I registered mine (or now my brother's), basically said your rhino is dangerous, it flips easy, and we are here should you need us. Really? It isn't top heavy, it doesn't flip easily...BUT...if you put big tires and performance CDI on it and start doing donuts on a hillside, yeah, you can turn it over but so will almost any other side-by-side with the same circumstances. But since the Rhino was extremely popular from 04-10, naturally if there are a million of them out there you're going to have a few accidents. The media got wind of "it" and they blew it up too, which made Yamaha take action to protect their reputation. If anyone remembers back in the mid 1980's the same exact thing happened with 3 wheelers. It even morphed into them discontinuing the Rhino altogether in favor of the Viking which is a LOT wider. I like them but they're too big. The dealer I was working at sold about 1,000 Rhino's from 2003 (04 models) through 2012 when I left. Most of them were sold to a company who does a lot of survey work for some of the drilling companies, they LOVED them, and they USED them (and hard). They used them in places that daylight could barely be pumped into if that tells you anything, so when I saw them at the shop, they were covered in junk...limbs, thorns in all the tires, axle boots ripped completely off sticks stuck through the fuel tank and bubble gum jammed into them to hold the fuel in, etc. They had to have 'em fixed too, and ASAP, so we basically kept a boat load of Rhino parts on hand at all times....there was good money in them (sale and repair), and I miss 'em. Now that I'm back in dealer work, I see one about every couple weeks but nothing like it used to be. To give you an idea, we had a big roll-off dumpster FULL of CV axles which mostly came from the Rhino's hauled off the day I left in early 2013. Those guys used them real hard, but where they used them there was no other way to use them. Babying them was not an option as doing so they'd never make it back out.

Anyone remember the 08 Teryx's? They tried to copy the Rhino and did a piss poor job in doing it....air filters plugged quickly, couldn't get to the radiator cap without lifting the entire front hood off of it, engines failing (V-twin..$$$$), etc etc. The 750 and 800 fixed the issues but they're outdated now.

Yeah...those damm lawyers.... they're the reason we have seat belts, air bags, smoke detectors in hotel rooms, nurses/doctors who wash their hands between hospital rooms …. yeah, ….. they're really really awful, heh?

(Daddy of a lawyer-daughter)

Lil Foot said:

Finally got the door upgrade done on the Rhino.
1st pic is the door
2nd passenger grab handle
3rd the 2" rear wheel spacers
4th is the CYA warning placard that is supposed to be pop-riveted to the center of the dash; thank God they had the brains not to do that (see 5th pic)
5th pic is the custom center of my dash

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Yamaha sent out a memo "back in the day" that said if there were ANY modifications from stock (including cup holders, gauges, etc)....that dealers were not supposed to perform the door kit and return the Rhino to customer with no further action taken. Lawyers again. They had to cover their tail.

It was my understanding that people would put bigger and/or more aggressive tires on them, then go roll them over & get hurt, then some greedy lawyer would get his foot in the door & try to jump on the "sue yamaha" bandwagon. Yamaha had to cover their tail, and sent out aforementioned memo to all the dealers. We couldn't do door kits on machines that had those screw-on cupholders in the dash because the new placard would not have been totally visible. I remember this well because I was doing one that had a clear cupholder when the rep showed up. He throwed up the finger and said "no way dude, call your customer & tell him we can't do it"....and I had already drilled the 1/2" holes for the door bolts into the frame bars. We (dealer) got a good talking to about that, but we didn't know about it because the "memo" hadn't been seen at the time.

Yes....attorneys have done more damage to the country than I can shake a stick at. They're all greedy. The worst part is that our country is run by attorneys (congress), well with the exception of one or two.

The reason most of the goods/services that we want/need are so expensive is because of lawyers. Cars and trucks. Wonder why they're so expensive? Partially because of lawyers. Yeah I can point out good & bad. But here's the deal. As a lower middle class worker, I can tell you that the expense of living is rising faster than my pay is and part of that is because it's getting more expensive to do business, which means whomever is selling items/services to basically everyone is passing those costs on. That's why things get more expensive.

LIL Foot, I agree with you 100%. Wouldn,t it be great IF stupid people would take responsibility for their own stupidity ? I feel the same way you do about lawyers and judges. The sad part is, they laugh about the crazy awards they win, driving costs up for everyone, even the smart, sane folks who never need lawyers and judges.

Orangeglow said:

LIL Foot, I agree with you 100%. Wouldn,t it be great IF stupid people would take responsibility for their own stupidity ? I feel the same way you do about lawyers and judges. The sad part is, they laugh about the crazy awards they win, driving costs up for everyone, even the smart, sane folks who never need lawyers and judges.

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Oh, but even the smart, sane folks need lawyers....to protect them from the other's law suits!!

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LugBolt***8230;. I believe this country is run by it's citizens.... unless we're in different parts of the world. (And the reason "lower middle class" isn't keeping up with inflation is NOT because of lawyers. It's because this administration is giving huge tax breaks to the TOP RICHEST 1% instead of the lower classes who actually make up the majority of this country...(which claims to be a democracy wherein "majority" rules. Hmmmmn***8230; I'll bet it's Big Corporations and ultra-rich that are unduly influencing things more than the typical lawyers. )

Lil Foot... I wonder who made the decision as to who was wronged in that suit..?? could it possibly be a JURY..?? a group of citizens who were interviewed by BOTH sides before that trial and who BOTH sides agreed to abide by their decision?

Anecdotal stories that drum up hate for some imaginary group targeted out of frustration isn't valid logic.

However, in an effort to put a different tone to the discussion I'll share a comment once made by a graduate of UT law-school I used to work for:
"In a small town a lawyer will go broke....

***8230; but TWO lawyers will make a pretty good living!"